ledger nano s cannot show my old (original) xrp address

[rod123]

I bought ledger nano s 3 or 4 years ago.

I have some xrp in my ledger nano but yesterday when  I put my pin code of ledger nano s(I have a 24-word list) to access ledger live

and saw my deposit of xrp but couldn't send it out due to an error. 

SO I reset my ledger nano live , but after  that even though  I connected my pin code 

my old wallet of xrp doesn't show up (I've already reset my ledger nano s using my 24 word recovery phrase, updated my ledger  live and downloaded the latest version of xrp wallet on ledger  live)

I tried adding a xrp wallet on ledger live but I can add a totally new one but my old one cannot show as an option to add on ledger live.

In my case my balance doesn't show 0 but the thing is my original xrp wallet doesn't show up on ledger live.

I don't know why  my old xrp wallet doesn't show up, please please kindly help me.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by rod123

[ixarepe]

Try XRP Toolkit fitst. Then maybe BIP39 online. Is of course a risk. If I remember correctly you can choose different wallet addresses for one secret key. Maybe your old one is in the list. 

[rod123]

thank you for your reply. 

I tried BIP39 but it's very complicated could you tell me what to do on this page

(https://iancoleman.io/bip39/)?

 

I really really appreciate your help

Edited January 7, 2022 by rod123

[ixarepe]

Sorry. Tried this route a long time ago. Don't remember the details. The 24 words give you the secret key. I seem to remember that multiple public keys can be derived from one secret key. 

Just checked. The Xumm app also allows to import an existing wallet from the 24 words. 

Please let me know if you succeed. 

[rod123]

thank you very much for your reply. 

I'll give it  a try

[jargoman]

ok so you inboxed me. But I should say it publicly so others can read. 

You have the right page for extracting a hex private key from your word list. 

put your 16 words into the website. 

change the coin to xrp

make sure the derivation path is
m/44'/60'/0'/

then at the bottom of the page is a table with all the key pairs. Look for the one with your address. And copy the private key from the far right row. 

It's a hexadecimal private key so you need a wallet that accepts private keys. 

[jargoman]

6 minutes ago, rod123 said:

thank you very much for your reply. 

I'll give it  a try

I think it may not work. Xumm might generate the same new empty addresses. 

If that happens then you need to recover the old addresses. 

Try Xumm and take note of which addresses it generates and if they are the same as the ones being generated in ledger live. 


I  read you can also specify a custom derivation path with metamask.

[brianwalden]

Stupid question. He's got his recovery phrase. Shouldn't Ledger be able to help him. My understanding is that this is a result of the older Ledgers using a different derivation path or something like that.

Note: Customer service will never ask you for your recovery phrase - but they should be able to point you where you can get access to your XRPL account using your older style recovery phrase.

It totally defeats the purpose of having a recovery phrase if it "goes bad" over time.

[rod123]

Mr. Jargoman, 

I really thank you for your help.  Without your help I wouldn't know what to do.

On https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ as in the attached photo I chose "BIP 32" (among bip 32, bip 44, bip49, bip84,

bip141) because this is the only option where I can choose custom deriation path and  I put m/44'/60'/0'/

in the section of BIP32 Derivation Path.

 

With regards to  the 16 words you mentioned I chose 24 words because there isn't any option of 16 words and

 I put the first 16 words out of the 24 words but in this way xrp addresses didn't appear.

 

I would like to hear from you soon. I'm really glad that you are helping me

Edited January 8, 2022 by rod123

[rod123]

Since I cannot find my address I deposited xrp , could you tell me how to find it using 

https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?

The thing is that too many inactive addresses are generated if I put my 24 word list

, so I cannot find it among them and therefore cannot find the private key of my xrp address.

Besides, if I can know from which derivation path my original xrp address was generated that should serve a lot to

find my address.   

 

[jargoman]

4 hours ago, rod123 said:

Besides, if I can know from which derivation path my original xrp address was generated that should serve a lot to

find my address.   

 

The one I posted is the one I thought would work. 
m/44'/60'/0'/

maybe you need the second zero which I think is the account field 
m/44'/60'/0'/0

try this one, I think this is the default for xrp on that site
m/44'/0'/0'/0

m/44'/0'/0'/

I don't think it matters how you get it to spit out the accounts. If you select xrp for example it will give the default derivation path for xrp. Or you could type exact same derivation path in the custom derivation path. Either way works. 

but you'll notice in the custom section in "bip32" there's a hard to find option that says "ledger", that may be what you're looking for. Or the default settings if you load the page and select xrp as a coin. 

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You're saying you have 16 words. Try the first 15 since the tool says the last one is the checksum. Or try using the 16 words and see if the tool will let you. 

If you can get the tool to generate the empty addresses on ledger live

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DO NOT reset your ledger unless you're certain that's a valid word list. You may have missed a word. 


 

[jargoman]

5 hours ago, rod123 said:

Since I cannot find my address I deposited xrp , could you tell me how to find it using 

https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ ?

The thing is that too many inactive addresses are generated if I put my 24 word list

, so I cannot find it among them and therefore cannot find the private key of my xrp address.

Besides, if I can know from which derivation path my original xrp address was generated that should serve a lot to

find my address.   

 

I missed that. I said 16 words and you said 24 words. No you're right, the 24 words. sorry lol

this is the derivation path my wallet uses to create accounts
m/44'/144'/0'/0

I have a wallet and I have software similar to ian coleman but xrp specific. I may have went with the above derivation path to match the old nano's. Or that's Xumm's derivation path. 

I had the problem years ago and recovered my coins.
 

Many users might show up with the same problem. It seems a new update has caused it. Maybe they changed derivation paths a second time. Or some people are only updating now after all this time. They lost backward compatibility. If you continually upgrade you're fine but if you reset completely ledger live forgets which addresses it's supposed to generate

[rod123]

I'll try what you said. Thank you for taking the  trouble to help me.

The world would be a better place if everyone would be like you.

Thanks

 

[rod123]

thanks for helping me.

I contacted ledger support but they didn't answer me 

Sir. Jargoman, I saw your other post talking about unreleased ihilda wallet 

but how could you get it? I really would be glad if I could use it to find the right address with xrp and 

its private key. 

I tried all you told me but still I'm struggling. Maybe something is missing on my part.

I would like to ask a question, when I put ,for example, a derivation path (like m/44'/0'/0'/0) in the section of BIP 32  derivation path on https://iancoleman.io/bip39/, tones of addresses are generated and I checked about the first 2000 addresses but Do you think I need to check more? like the first 50000 addresses?

You are the only hope thanks!

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Unreleased version of ihilda wallet supports word lists.

images uploaded in the wrong order:
image 4:
select create new wallet from word list

image 1:
enter word list and derivation path. A common derivation path used by ledger nano is provided as default. 

image 2:
You scroll through the accounts and find the account which is funded with XRP

image 3:
Now you create a wallet using the private key which was extracted from the word list. 

Ihilda is AWESOME !!! It's just complicated and needs testing, love and care

[rod123]

Still cannot solve this problem I am a a loss for what to do

Edited January 11, 2022 by rod123