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https://www.change.org/p/retail-investors-fire-gary-gensler-as-sec-chairman-for-obstruction-of-justice

Fire Gary Gensler as SEC Chairman for obstruction of justice

Al From Boston started this petition to Retail Investors

SEC Chairman Gary Gensler is complicit in criminal activities perpetrated by Citadel Securities, Citadel the Market Maker in naked short selling and dark pool abuse. Mr. Gensler is guilty of obstruction of justice due to his lack of enforcement of the laws pertaining to naked short selling and lack of competent oversight of market maker activities. Due to Mr. Gensler's crimes, millions of retail investors were defrauded of countless MILLIONS of dollars. I'm referring to working class, middle class and poor folks as well as institutional investors. Mr. Gensler needs to step down as the chairman, and a thorough, detailed , forensic analysis and investigation into Citadel Securities and Citadel Market Maker. This cannot go unpunished. Rise up and sign! 

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I do not remember a criminal trial where Mr. Gensler was found guilty of anything that is claimed in the OP. I realize that trials are no longer necessary, thanks to the tsunami of progressiveness that has swallowed America. But do not forget that when you elect progressives to run your life, logic and due process become victims. Citizens become subjects.

America has entered the phase of socialism where corruption can no longer be stopped, so there is no need to hide it.

If you watched any of the Senate hearings you will clearly see who is coming for your crypto. It is the progressives. They are terrified of losing the power they enjoy through controlling USD. Progressives will not allow the threat of crypto to live much longer. I see conservatives embracing the new tech, but thanks to clever marketing by media, and the indoctrination of the current American generation, most on this site happily identify with those same folks who will deliver their own demise.

Congrats on completing the fundamental transformation of America - Although 4 years delayed: You win.

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48 minutes ago, Valhalla_Guy said:

If you watched any of the Senate hearings you will clearly see who is coming for your crypto. It is the progressives. They are terrified of losing the power they enjoy through controlling USD. Progressives will not allow the threat of crypto to live much longer. I see conservatives embracing the new tech, but thanks to clever marketing by media, and the indoctrination of the current American generation, most on this site happily identify with those same folks who will deliver their own demise.

While I think some of what you say is true, I also think what you see is politics as usual. If the Republicans were in control, I have a pretty good feeling the messaging would be different, if not entirely flipped. They're out there winning votes, but let's not forget Jay Clayton's tenure as SEC chair, Trump calling bitcoin a scam against the dollar, etc. 

The reason America is (potentially) too far gone is that too many people are still stuck within the walls of a game of pong, thinking it's always the other side to blame. From outside that game, you can find a more honest perspective. 

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46 minutes ago, RipMcGillicuddy said:

While I think some of what you say is true, I also think what you see is politics as usual. If the Republicans were in control, I have a pretty good feeling the messaging would be different, if not entirely flipped. They're out there winning votes, but let's not forget Jay Clayton's tenure as SEC chair, Trump calling bitcoin a scam against the dollar, etc. 

The reason America is (potentially) too far gone is that too many people are still stuck within the walls of a game of pong, thinking it's always the other side to blame. From outside that game, you can find a more honest perspective. 

You make the common mistake of reading "conservative" and thinking "republican" Progressives ride Elephants as well as Donkey's. I am well beyond any party loyalty. I suggest others start looking beyond their party flags as well. Try voting based on actions and not mascots.

Progressives are dangerous people when given power. History & present day societies are full of examples of their wrath.

When one is blinded by the beam of their own light, they feel they can do no wrong, and will never see the negative results of their mistakes.

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4 minutes ago, Valhalla_Guy said:

Progressives are dangerous people when given power.

Too broad a brush, IMO, and shows some inherent bias. Just one example...until recently progressive liberalism would have promoted strict immigration - as that would have been seen as a PRO-Labor stance. Conservatives maybe can't really believe their luck as they find themselves able to pluck off and leverage some of the most hardened ideals of American progressivism from the past - many of which are very pro-liberty, pro-democracy, etc. 

We are in the middle of a phase of political distortion or permeability, not unlike similar periods in the past, where party tenants are being traded and morphed. Ultimately, there are still 2 parties fighting for the same things which highlights our stagnation.  

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3 hours ago, RipMcGillicuddy said:

Conservatives maybe can't really believe their luck as they find themselves able to pluck off and leverage some of the most hardened ideals of American progressivism from the past - many of which are very pro-liberty, pro-democracy, etc. 

I'm not a US citizen but please allow me to provide a view as a spectator and not as a participant in US politics. What we see, not only in the US but also where I live (Italy) as well as in my home country (Netherlands), is an ever increasing polarization. Many discussions in our daily life, from vaccination, migration, right or left, the use of guns or arms in general, have made a profound gap between those who are in favour and those who are against. Within such a separation there is no place for meaningful discussions and moderation of opinions and hardly ever you will come to balanced view or common or shared statements. The indirect consequence is, unfortunately, an increase of violence and aggression almost everywhere in all layers of society. Think of it, all the focus is on whatever divides and never what we share as a view. I hope we ("we" a wide sense) will be able to reverse this sooner or later...

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16 minutes ago, Frisia said:

I'm not a US citizen but please allow me to provide a view as a spectator and not as a participant in US politics. What we see, not only in the US but also where I live (Italy) as well as in my home country (Netherlands), is an ever increasing polarization. Many discussions in our daily life, from vaccination, migration, right or left, the use of guns or arms in general, have made a profound gap between those who are in favour and those who are against. Within such a separation there is no place for meaningful discussions and moderation of opinions and hardly ever you will come to balanced view or common or shared statements. The indirect consequence is, unfortunately, an increase of violence and aggression almost everywhere in all layers of society. Think of it, all the focus is on whatever divides and never what we share as a view. I hope we ("we" a wide sense) will be able to reverse this sooner or later...

Yes, it's beautifully put. Our collective sense making apparatus is broken down, largely due to the effects of social media and the algorithms that run the platforms. 

Reversing it is going to be incredibly difficult but monumentally important at the same time. I find it as a positive sign that it's not THAT hard to find people who agree that these things have broken down. It may be a somewhat obvious observation, but so what. Admitting there is a problem always needs to be step 1. In a sense though, that's just like looking at a car with no engine and understanding it won't work. But if you're not a mechanic, you wouldn't know how to get it running again. I believe the majority of people (no matter what they think politically) could have a conversation about this and come to an agreement that it needs to be fixed. 

But how? I think a shift away from the social media platforms will help, but they have essentially infected the heavy users. If we had societal doctors, I think the prescription would be a heavy dose of listening. Not to the people you disagree with (as that would be torture at first). But listening to a range of voices who discuss the root causes of these issues, and not just the symptoms. I have personally found it wildly helpful to listen to conversations (podcasts) where the people are open to having their minds changed, and excited to have their own thoughts challenged by others. 

I think it is vital, in western culture at least, that my generation (millennials) with young kids (and the education system quickly turn this corner, so that our youngest generations can be positively influenced. I don't have kids personally, so maybe schools are already doing this, but I would be supportive of more classes on civil discourse and culture, even if it took time away from some of the traditional coursework. 

 

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3 minutes ago, RipMcGillicuddy said:

Yes, it's beautifully put. Our collective sense making apparatus is broken down, largely due to the effects of social media and the algorithms that run the platforms. 

Reversing it is going to be incredibly difficult but monumentally important at the same time. I find it as a positive sign that it's not THAT hard to find people who agree that these things have broken down. It may be a somewhat obvious observation, but so what. Admitting there is a problem always needs to be step 1. In a sense though, that's just like looking at a car with no engine and understanding it won't work. But if you're not a mechanic, you wouldn't know how to get it running again. I believe the majority of people (no matter what they think politically) could have a conversation about this and come to an agreement that it needs to be fixed. 

But how? I think a shift away from the social media platforms will help, but they have essentially infected the heavy users. If we had societal doctors, I think the prescription would be a heavy dose of listening. Not to the people you disagree with (as that would be torture at first). But listening to a range of voices who discuss the root causes of these issues, and not just the symptoms. I have personally found it wildly helpful to listen to conversations (podcasts) where the people are open to having their minds changed, and excited to have their own thoughts challenged by others. 

I think it is vital, in western culture at least, that my generation (millennials) with young kids (and the education system quickly turn this corner, so that our youngest generations can be positively influenced. I don't have kids personally, so maybe schools are already doing this, but I would be supportive of more classes on civil discourse and culture, even if it took time away from some of the traditional coursework. 

 

Yes, all very true and we're in the middle of it. I have children (~early 20's) and, I hope (but I know 😊) they have a balanced view on society. This inherently means that examples are of a fundamental importance, so indeed, family, school, work, any context, but most of all we need examples and leaders.

What this topic is all about, and to make the circle round, is that we have too many bad examples and bad leaders that do exactly the opposite of we think would be necessary to reverse. Gensler & Co are perhaps not the worst but surely representative examples of today's polarization and hunger for power rather than justice and equal rights for everyone. Thx for your response mate! Good to read your view on such a complex matter.

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