ced Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Hello, i Just updated "ledger live" and desktop and the firmware of my nano S. I checked to the app catalog and found 2 app for flare : "Flare Coston" "Flare" on Flare website : https://docs.flare.network/en/tutorials/wallets/how-to-access-flare-network-with-a-ledger-device they speak of a "FLR" application but no mention of the 2 i found on the app catalog. My goal : I have setted up last year the message to claim my sparks token and setted up the appropriate eth account on ledger. I just want to be able to see the spark token and interact with them when they will be distributed. I am lost. Hope i make sense, would be happy to get any pointers on this topic. Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at3n Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Coston is the Flare test network. Your spark will be airdropped to the main net, which presumably is the "Flare" app. I'm sure there will be more clear instructions published soon. No rush, as the main network isn't live yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ced Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 thanks at3n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinlyspread Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 ced and BillyOckham 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyOckham Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 hours ago, thinlyspread said: Oh wow. If you’d asked me what the chances were of them getting something so fundamental wrong I would have said ‘near zero’. Think about their release process…. it presumably had all the normal production quality gates to pass through, and yet no one thought to check “does the new network exist yet?” And this on a high security, high value piece of software. Gobsmacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianwalden Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, BillyOckham said: Oh wow. If you’d asked me what the chances were of them getting something so fundamental wrong I would have said ‘near zero’. Think about their release process…. it presumably had all the normal production quality gates to pass through, and yet no one thought to check “does the new network exist yet?” And this on a high security, high value piece of software. Gobsmacked. The problem wasn't technical. Flare runs the EVM. The code as far as ledger is concerned is the same as Ethereum, it's just a matter of connecting to the Flare Network. The problem is that most people are idiots, God love them. I count myself among their number. I suspect Ledger was overrun with customer support tickets from people trying to use Flare before it's live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyOckham Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, brianwalden said: The problem wasn't technical. Flare runs the EVM. Brian, I sometimes think you must think I’m an idiot. Of course it wasn’t “technical”. And yeah…. I get that Flare run the Flare network. 43 minutes ago, brianwalden said: I suspect Ledger was overrun with customer support tickets from people trying to use Flare before it's live. Which in no way affects the degree of gobsmacked I feel. Irrespective of the volume of noise and demand…. the was a giant fail in the quality gate when they put it out before there was a network to connect to. You might argue that the code is fine and ‘early doesn’t matter’ because as soon as the network is live it will begin to work. And I would accept that (apart from the hassle aspect it would raise)…. except for the fact that they have admitted that was never their intent by embarrassingly pulling it back. They didn’t meet their own requirements. They clearly did NOT want to release before the network existed (and why would they want the inevitable service tickets that would result from “my ledger flare isn’t working”). So they failed to meet their own quality gate, or bypassed it, or never considered it. None of those is good, and as I said in my post, I would NEVER have predicted that could happen like that in such a critical thing. Early or inadvertent releases are not a new thing, and do happen on occasion, but in a financial critical thing it would be nearly never. So still gobsmacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianwalden Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillyOckham said: Brian, I sometimes think you must think I’m an idiot. Of course it wasn’t “technical”. And yeah…. I get that Flare run the Flare network. Which in no way affects the degree of gobsmacked I feel. Irrespective of the volume of noise and demand…. the was a giant fail in the quality gate when they put it out before there was a network to connect to. You might argue that the code is fine and ‘early doesn’t matter’ because as soon as the network is live it will begin to work. And I would accept that (apart from the hassle aspect it would raise)…. except for the fact that they have admitted that was never their intent by embarrassingly pulling it back. They didn’t meet their own requirements. They clearly did NOT want to release before the network existed (and why would they want the inevitable service tickets that would result from “my ledger flare isn’t working”). So they failed to meet their own quality gate, or bypassed it, or never considered it. None of those is good, and as I said in my post, I would NEVER have predicted that could happen like that in such a critical thing. Early or inadvertent releases are not a new thing, and do happen on occasion, but in a financial critical thing it would be nearly never. So still gobsmacked. I think you're the type of smart, competent, practical person who makes the world go round without being noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyOckham Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, brianwalden said: I think you're the type of smart, competent, practical person who makes the world go round without being noticed. Gobsmacked again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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