NightJanitor Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, RobertHarpool said: I'm not 100% sure what you mean. But, an IRA can be managed in one of 3 ways: 1. Managed IRA ... where you pick your level of risk and someone invests your money into a fund deemed at that level. 2. Self Directed ... where you pick your own stocks and funds to invest in 3. Self Directed with Checkbook Privileges ... where you invest your own IRA money into whatever you wish ... crypto, neighbor's lemonade stand, grandmother's startup, whatever. (There are limits though....and it requires a custodian's oversight to make sure u adhere to those limits....i.e. u can't invest in your own startup ... Cheapest overseer I've found is about $1K) All 3 can get you to crypto in some form now days. I apologize in advance if I missed the mark on your question ... Yes, thanks... that's the high-level overview; I was wondering if there were any specialist shops in the custody business who'd yet made a name for themselves or had some experience in the area. I've experience with a number of SD IRA custodians from another "monetized hobby" a decade or two ago, but am not sure about crypto. The "alternative investments" that I was attempting to do, back then, were totally foreign, experience-wise anyway, to many in the custody biz and it was a time-suck - ergo, wondering if anyone in the US had made any progress in that area for individual/retail investors (or, for that matter, if there were any specialist RIA's to ease pain). Favorable tax treatment is nice, but dealing with people who have a clue and not wasting time is nice, too (and I'm aware that such experience may require a premium). It may be that nobody is willing to yet go out on a limb wrt crypto custody (at least at the SD and/or retail retirement level), given regulatory uncertainty / lack of clarity. But it sure would be nice... know what I mean? Edited February 2, 2021 by NightJanitor Spelling error - "cryTpo" - which is but one of the reasons I want someone good to do most of the paperwork part(s) for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGogh Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, NightJanitor said: In the US, has anyone yet figured out a way to custody within a Roth IRA or a 401k? iTrust Capital; however, they stopped transacting XRP when the SEC sued. I think they use Coinbase to actually custody their crypto assets. Edited February 2, 2021 by VanGogh clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eksarpi Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I think Holland is the best place to move.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetbrzzz Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 hours ago, eksarpi said: I think Holland is the best place to move.. They got ballz or billions, leaving Lambos and 'Raries in the driveway. How can you afford supercars but not a garage to store them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetbrzzz Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) Is it just me or do IRAs and 401ks come off as a kinda lazy man's excuse to get skimmed of by the gooberment and bankster friends? Sure tax-free is nice but your capital is locked up for years and you have to trust someone else not to f*ck it up. I mean you're essentially 'forcing'/enticing people to plow their fiat in to an IRA which is backed by a propped up stock market run by manipulation just to not be taxed by the government. It's such a circle j3rk handoff.... Gooberment IRS: Do this to help our Wall Street friends or we'll tax you anyway. And for crypto-IRAs, why should the government get any 'cut'/advantage of our foresight for hodl'ing for years while taking all the risk? BS. Edited February 2, 2021 by jetbrzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurotoxin Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, jetbrzzz said: Is it just me or do IRAs and 401ks come off as a kinda lazy man's excuse to get skimmed of by the gooberment and bankster friends? Sure tax-free is nice but your capital is locked up for years and you have to trust someone else not to f*ck it up. I mean you're essentially 'forcing'/enticing people to plow their fiat in to an IRA which is backed by a propped up stock market run by manipulation just to not be taxed by the government. It's such a circle j3rk handoff.... Gooberment IRS: Do this to help our Wall Street friends or we'll tax you anyway. And for crypto-IRAs, why should the government get any 'cut'/advantage of our foresight for hodl'ing for years while taking all the risk? BS. The IRS are nothing but pirates IMO. jetbrzzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barefooter Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 7:26 AM, VanGogh said: iTrust Capital; however, they stopped transacting XRP when the SEC sued. I think they use Coinbase to actually custody their crypto assets. iTrust Capital uses institutional custody through Curv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL1000 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 https://www.accointing.com/ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-on-cryptoassets/cryptoassets-for-individuals https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/cryptocurrency-taxes-in-the-uk-everything-you-need-to-know/ https://tokentax.co/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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