LeonidasH 2,159 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 https://www.xrparcade.com/news/xrpl-deletable-accounts-amendment-enabled-whats-new/ mDuo13, Trisky, ricrem160 and 6 others 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Skippy 7,343 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Can someone post a deleted account address here? I would like to see how it looks like. Link to post Share on other sites
lawalkhalid 158 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 https://newslogical.com/xrpl-deletable-accounts-amendment-enabled-grants-75-balance-recovery/ Link to post Share on other sites
Zerpiet 725 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Skippy said: Can someone post a deleted account address here? I would like to see how it looks like. Searching for that account on https://xrpscan.com gives a 'not found' error, which I guess is expected behavior. Edited May 8, 2020 by Xrpiet Skippy, Trisky and pucksterpete 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Caracappa 2,729 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Xrpiet said: Searching for that account on https://xrpscan.com gives a 'not found' error, which I guess is expected behavior. So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great! Link to post Share on other sites
yxxyun 1,135 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Caracappa said: So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great! you can still check the history, I think xrpscan should update their website Trisky, Trentsteel, xrpscan and 4 others 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites
xrpscan 100 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Caracappa said: So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great! It is possible to show historical transactions for a deleted account too. We're rewiring the xrpscan api to do this, as the assumptions we made about the accounts are no longer true due the amendment. Caracappa, mDuo13, yxxyun and 4 others 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Skippy 7,343 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Same with bithomp at the moment, "not activated" Link to post Share on other sites
WarChest 438 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Apologies for this uneducated question, but does that mean that someone could have their xrp holding confiscated by a government or some other such authoritarian body? Edited May 8, 2020 by WarChest Link to post Share on other sites
enrique11 1,486 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, WarChest said: Apologies for this uneducated question, but does that mean that someone could have their xrp holding confiscated by a government or some other such authoritarian body? From the article: Quote Who deletes the account and how? Only the owner of the account, the entity that holds the private keys, executes an AccountDelete transaction, like any other transaction. Link to post Share on other sites
WarChest 438 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, enrique11 said: From the article: Thankyou enrique11 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pucksterpete 1,679 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 @xrpscan was this done on testnet, because I am getting 'Invalid hash' on xrp charts? Link to post Share on other sites
mDuo13 2,456 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, pucksterpete said: @xrpscan was this done on testnet, because I am getting 'Invalid hash' on xrp charts? Not sure what hash you're looking for, but here's an AccountDelete on XRPCharts: https://xrpcharts.ripple.com/#/transactions/2BCD5B4C9CB7DC65C4C620F2767104CF3F35F805B189A414C1E02479788B7FDA Same one on the XRPL Explorer:https://livenet.xrpl.org/transactions/2BCD5B4C9CB7DC65C4C620F2767104CF3F35F805B189A414C1E02479788B7FDA/detailed Trisky, pucksterpete and WrathofKahneman 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Valhalla_Guy 533 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 9 hours ago, xrpscan said: It is possible to show historical transactions for a deleted account too. We're rewiring the xrpscan api to do this, as the assumptions we made about the accounts are no longer true due the amendment. "An account that has been deleted and re-created is no different than an account that has been created for the first time." This implies to me, that the account history is lost when it is deleted? The article also states that the change was introduced for numerous reasons, but reducing ledger size was one of them. I can see advantages to both keeping or losing the history. Bithomp tools show the address as "not activated" (r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB) Be nice to know if the history is lost. That would bring an anonymity feature to the system, for a 5xrp price. Of course with ledger backups, my guess would be that everything is still traceable. Link to post Share on other sites
yxxyun 1,135 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Valhalla_Guy said: "An account that has been deleted and re-created is no different than an account that has been created for the first time." This implies to me, that the account history is lost when it is deleted? The article also states that the change was introduced for numerous reasons, but reducing ledger size was one of them. I can see advantages to both keeping or losing the history. Bithomp tools show the address as "not activated" (r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB) Be nice to know if the history is lost. That would bring an anonymity feature to the system, for a 5xrp price. Of course with ledger backups, my guess would be that everything is still traceable. history and the ledger are not same, all the rippled node keep the current ledger, if one account been deleted,it's removed from the ledger, so show the account is "not activated" is correct. not all the node keep the full history, only full node keep full history, most node only keep recent history to save the disk space. use account_info command https://xrpl.org/websocket-api-tool.html?server=wss%3A%2F%2Fs2.ripple.com%2F&req={"id"%3A2%2C"command"%3A"account_info"%2C"account"%3A"r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB"%2C"strict"%3Atrue%2C"ledger_index"%3A"current"%2C"queue"%3Atrue} you can see the account is not found on the ledger. use account_tx command https://xrpl.org/websocket-api-tool.html?server=wss%3A%2F%2Fs2.ripple.com%2F&req={"id"%3A2%2C"command"%3A"account_tx"%2C"account"%3A"r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB"%2C"ledger_index_min"%3A-1%2C"ledger_index_max"%3A-1%2C"binary"%3Afalse%2C"limit"%3A2%2C"forward"%3Afalse} you can still check the deleted account's tx history Edited May 9, 2020 by yxxyun mDuo13, EcneitapLatnem, Valhalla_Guy and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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