XRPL Deletable Accounts Amendment Enabled, Grants 75% Balance Recovery

[LeonidasH 2,159]

https://www.xrparcade.com/news/xrpl-deletable-accounts-amendment-enabled-whats-new/

[Skippy 7,332]

Can someone post a deleted account address here? I would like to see how it looks like. 

[lawalkhalid 158]

https://newslogical.com/xrpl-deletable-accounts-amendment-enabled-grants-75-balance-recovery/

[Zerpiet 725]

3 hours ago, Skippy said:

Can someone post a deleted account address here? I would like to see how it looks like. 

 

Searching for that account on https://xrpscan.com gives a 'not found' error, which I guess is expected behavior.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Xrpiet

[Caracappa 2,729]

12 minutes ago, Xrpiet said:

 

Searching for that account on https://xrpscan.com gives a 'not found' error, which I guess is expected behavior.

So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great!

[yxxyun 1,135]

8 minutes ago, Caracappa said:

So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great!

you can still check the history,  I think xrpscan should update their website 

[xrpscan 100]

6 minutes ago, Caracappa said:

So once it is deleted the history can not be checked anymore? That would benefit hiding fraudulent activity on the ledger and conflict with the openness of it… great!

It is possible to show historical transactions for a deleted account too. We're rewiring the xrpscan api to do this, as the assumptions we made about the accounts are no longer true due the amendment.

[Skippy 7,332]

Same with bithomp at the moment, "not activated" 

[WarChest 438]

Apologies for this uneducated question, but does that mean that someone could have their xrp holding confiscated by a government or some other such authoritarian body?

Edited May 8, 2020 by WarChest

[enrique11 1,486]

10 minutes ago, WarChest said:

Apologies for this uneducated question, but does that mean that someone could have their xrp holding confiscated by a government or some other such authoritarian body?

From the article:

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Who deletes the account and how?

Only the owner of the account, the entity that holds the private keys, executes an AccountDelete transaction, like any other transaction.

 

[WarChest 438]

2 hours ago, enrique11 said:

From the article:

 

Thankyou

[pucksterpete 1,679]

@xrpscan was this done on testnet, because I am getting 'Invalid hash' on xrp charts?

[mDuo13 2,456]

46 minutes ago, pucksterpete said:

@xrpscan was this done on testnet, because I am getting 'Invalid hash' on xrp charts?

Not sure what hash you're looking for, but here's an AccountDelete on XRPCharts: https://xrpcharts.ripple.com/#/transactions/2BCD5B4C9CB7DC65C4C620F2767104CF3F35F805B189A414C1E02479788B7FDA

Same one on the XRPL Explorer:https://livenet.xrpl.org/transactions/2BCD5B4C9CB7DC65C4C620F2767104CF3F35F805B189A414C1E02479788B7FDA/detailed

[Valhalla_Guy 524]

 

 

9 hours ago, xrpscan said:

It is possible to show historical transactions for a deleted account too. We're rewiring the xrpscan api to do this, as the assumptions we made about the accounts are no longer true due the amendment.

"An account that has been deleted and re-created is no different than an account that has been created for the first time."

This implies to me, that the account history is lost when it is deleted?

The article also states that the change was introduced for numerous reasons, but reducing ledger size was one of them.

I can see advantages to both keeping or losing the history. Bithomp tools show the address as "not activated"  (r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB)

Be nice to know if the history is lost. That would bring an anonymity feature to the system, for a 5xrp price. Of course with ledger backups, my guess would be that everything is still traceable.

[yxxyun 1,135]

2 hours ago, Valhalla_Guy said:

 

 

"An account that has been deleted and re-created is no different than an account that has been created for the first time."

This implies to me, that the account history is lost when it is deleted?

The article also states that the change was introduced for numerous reasons, but reducing ledger size was one of them.

I can see advantages to both keeping or losing the history. Bithomp tools show the address as "not activated"  (r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB)

Be nice to know if the history is lost. That would bring an anonymity feature to the system, for a 5xrp price. Of course with ledger backups, my guess would be that everything is still traceable.

history and the ledger are not same,

all the rippled node keep the current ledger， if one account been deleted，it's removed from the ledger, so show the account is "not activated" is correct.

not all the node keep the full history, only full node keep full history, most node only keep recent history to save the disk space.

use account_info command

 https://xrpl.org/websocket-api-tool.html?server=wss%3A%2F%2Fs2.ripple.com%2F&req={"id"%3A2%2C"command"%3A"account_info"%2C"account"%3A"r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB"%2C"strict"%3Atrue%2C"ledger_index"%3A"current"%2C"queue"%3Atrue}   

you can see the account is not found on the ledger.

 

use account_tx command  

https://xrpl.org/websocket-api-tool.html?server=wss%3A%2F%2Fs2.ripple.com%2F&req={"id"%3A2%2C"command"%3A"account_tx"%2C"account"%3A"r93Fr5Cmf6KAho1GfF9mvNKV97tZsCFKcB"%2C"ledger_index_min"%3A-1%2C"ledger_index_max"%3A-1%2C"binary"%3Afalse%2C"limit"%3A2%2C"forward"%3Afalse}

you can still check the deleted account's tx history

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by yxxyun