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Coil : why the ^&#^ aren't you an option on Patreon yet?!


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Patreon is the go-to platform for web content creators. I already sponsor multiple content streams through this service which monthly charges my old-school credit card.

Coil has been trying to get into this space for years now. I've been a monthly subscriber since literally the first day the Coil browser plugin became available. And so far have got ZERO value for it. The people who I want to pay for their content are already on Patreon!

So. Honest question from someone with plenty of stake in wanting the project to succeed:

WHY IS COIL NOT YET AFFILIATED IN ANY WAY WITH PATREON AND WHAT IS THE PLAN TO CHANGE THAT?!

I honestly do not feel Coil is making a best-effort attempt at achieving their stated mission, because as far as I can tell there has been total silence from them about this obvious entity that is dominating their stated niche

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They're protocol guys.  They're fantastic at it.  They have no idea how to sell anything;  it strikes them as "wrong" (wrong word, but you get the idea)...  It'd be like asking a theoretical physicist to work on your car, because, hey, how far can a quantum mechanic be from an auto mechanic?  They're both just mechanics, right?  Yes... in theory!

In reality, however...

(And I'm not saying this is a bad thing, necessarily... I think of Coil as sort of a Bell Labs; it's great to keep pure research alive, but it's good to have a little separation, too.)

That's just how I think of it... who knows?  Maybe they're actually trying to sell a product and make this month's rent out of the profit only on income.  God help them if so.

ETA:  If they were *really* trying to sell it, right now, they'd press even harder on that "your privacy is our #1 priority" bit... wrt fact that they don't see x, y, z.

ETA:  I'm not *really* worried about this, just playing along with the impatience of the guy asking... but I do think these people don't want you seeing their porn habits or reading habits or any other url that may appear in the browser or any on-page data or ... you name it... all of the privacy concerns, address!

And then there's just the general suspicion and paranoia in crypto;  who the hell wants to install software onto their machine made by ANYONE in crypto?

I guess that's probably million dollar - wait... adjusted for inflation, new generation - the $100 million dollar question... (my... what a specific number... :rolleyes:)

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14 hours ago, XRPDaddy69 said:

Why don’t you try ditching the Patreon and convince your favorite content provider to support the internet of value and post on Coil.com and Cinnamon Video.  There are some current good post and podcasts on there

I, unfortunately, disagree - the content on both platforms is largely atrocious.  I have been a Coil subscriber since day one and both it and Cinnamon Video are about 85 percent crypto related (mainly an XRP echo chamber) , which - let's face it - the general public is disinterested in.  I can only imagine the difficulty Coil is having in bringing in good content providers, but why should anyone leave Patreon when its already working for them? If they don't step up their game, both will just remain niche and virtually unknown.  As much as I want Coil, Cinnamon, etc. to succeed so far I am thus thoroughly unimpressed with their offerings. The interface also look amateurish and doesn't induce much confidence outside of us who are intimately following the "internet of value." 

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4 hours ago, Sooner443 said:

I, unfortunately, disagree - the content on both platforms is largely atrocious.  I have been a Coil subscriber since day one and both it and Cinnamon Video are about 85 percent crypto related (mainly an XRP echo chamber) , which - let's face it - the general public is disinterested in.  I can only imagine the difficulty Coil is having in bringing in good content providers, but why should anyone leave Patreon when its already working for them? If they don't step up their game, both will just remain niche and virtually unknown.  As much as I want Coil, Cinnamon, etc. to succeed so far I am thus thoroughly unimpressed with their offerings. The interface also look amateurish and doesn't induce much confidence outside of us who are intimately following the "internet of value." 

I read a Coil article by a guy who does an Internet of Value Podcast.  He wrote an article that went with his podcast that showed why content creators should start moving to Coil.com and cinnamonvideo.  He made good points about how the community could effectuate that change

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