brjXRP17 738 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) Hey guys, TLDR: a new lawsuit or complaint for patent infringement has been filed against Ripple (the company). Cooperative Entertainment, Inc. (based out of Raleigh, NC) recently filed a lawsuit against Ripple Labs, Inc. on 9/25/2019. The patent in dispute (U.S. Patent No. 9,432,452) was filed in 2013 by Cooperative Entertainment - https://patents.google.com/patent/US9432452. As of today (10/30), Ripple (the company) has not responded to the complaint. Here is a more detailed analysis of the lawsuit or complaint: 1) Cooperative Entertainment, Inc. is a company based out of Raleigh, North Carolina (US). They are the plaintiff in this case. Ripple Labs, Inc. or Ripple (the company) is the defendant. 2) Cooperative Entertainment is registered for doing business in North Carolina (see photo below). 3) Cooperative Entertainment appears to have been founded in 2010 by Juan R. Benito - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juanbenito 4) According to the LinkedIn Profile, "Cooperative Entertainment is a boutique software development consultancy specializing in games for both consumer and corporate deployment. Clients include The World Bank, Fidelity Investments, BCBS, Capitol Broadcasting Company, Lockheed Martin, BLDG-25, StandardWorks, The E.W. Scripps Company, US Intelligence Community, and others. From console games to serious games, Cooperative's network of talented developers can advise, design, develop, and deploy games of all kinds and on all platforms." 5) This case was filed in federal court. 6) The plaintiff is alleging that the defendant's RippleNet is infringing on U.S. Patent No. 9,432,452. 7) Cooperative Entertainment "prayer for relief" includes for a fair and reasonable royalty, along with pre-judgment and post-judgment interest at the maximum rate allowed by law. 8) The complaint gets somewhat technical. Feel free to read the entire complaint here - https://pdfhost.io/v/a8JXXsiCr_show_temppdf.pdf. 9) And here is the docket - https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/30211232/Cooperative_Entertainment,_Inc_v_Ripple_Labs,_Inc The community will be updated as this case makes its way through the judicial process. Thanks, guys! @Pablo @Snoopy @zerpdigger @vlad_got_it @jcdenton @Mrsrippley @Sebastian @xrpisking Edited October 30, 2019 by brjXRP17 Added URL link to complaint mistatee2000, mathesmith, Scout and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites
quetzalcoatl 224 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Out of all the fear of litigation Ripple has faced this one might carry the most weight, yet it seems frivolous. Reading through the complaint i'm left thinking, if i patented a system to cook a hot dog and then someone came along using a similar system and cooked a bratwurst would i pursue litigation? pucksterpete 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ZerpAndFlurp 105 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I must definitely be missing something here (and I'll happily confess to having zero pertinent legal knowledge in this matter). BUT, if this patent was filed on Sept 10, 2013 -- at least a year AFTER the XRPL was developed by David Schwartz et.al. doesn't that constitute a clear case of prior art? Good luck convincing a judge that Ripple Labs' use of the already-invented (not to mention open-source and in no way Ripple Labs-owned) XRPL constitutes infringement of something that was patented a year later... xrphilosophy, Scout, automatic and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Zerponaut 5,862 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I have no clue whatsoever about the complexities of patent law but in my professional opinion this is a pile of horse bits. Reading through this patent I would challenge anyone to equate it with the XRPL (that, as noted above by Archer, existed before this was lodged). I note that nowhere in the Patent concerned does it mention 'money', 'value', 'finance', 'transfer', 'encrypted', 'secure' or any other vaguely even tangentially related terms that RippleNet focuses on. It would seem obvious that the authors of this Patent never had any intention whatsoever that it would claim to be even vaguely related to transferring 'value' and seems to be solely and repeatedly focused on transferring media and repeatedly references content distribution, video, games, files and 'data'. As is tradition by my kind, I sum up the situation in an interpretive gif... to the lions! DannyRipple 1 Link to post Share on other sites
OzAlphaWolf 11,591 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Really looks frivolous to me. Why are they suing Ripple and not the zillion other blockchain companies? Because Ripple is the largest, most visible and most successful is my bet. Cesar1810 and Sharkey 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SquaryBone 819 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Why sue Ripple? It's a company. They don't own the XRP ledger :s This makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Dario_o 1,746 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, SquaryBone said: This makes no sense. 99% of lawsuits against Ripple make no sense Cesar1810 and VanHasen 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MoonRockets 20 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Seems like they have sued on patent infringement before https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14613500/cooperative-entertainment-inc-v-peer5-inc/ Dario_o and mathesmith 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mathesmith 77 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, MoonRockets said: Seems like they have sued on patent infringement before They also filed against another company (Crowd Machine Inc.) on the same day as Ripple. Another patent infringement case. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16245700/cooperative-entertainment-inc-v-crowd-machine-inc/ Cesar1810 1 Link to post Share on other sites
King34Maine 2,262 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, OzAlphaWolf said: Really looks frivolous to me. Why are they suing Ripple and not the zillion other blockchain companies? Because Ripple is the largest, most visible and most successful is my bet. I concur with everything you've said. Don't forget one of the most profitable, which makes them a prime target for idiots!!! Scout and OzAlphaWolf 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Esprxp 200 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Every complaint filed against Ripple makes me evidence that we are on the right path... Cesar1810 and bloodhound 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ZeeperCreeper 868 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 This looks like opportunistic move for some easy cash, as opposed to something threatening the future of XRP. automatic, Cesar1810 and mike91 3 Link to post Share on other sites
automatic 3,898 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Patent Trolling ftw mike91 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fiik 1,321 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 ah... good news don't they say a company's success is correlated to the number of lawsuits (frivolous or not) Sharkey 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CryptoSteveO 0 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 10/30/2019 at 6:24 PM, ZerpAndFlurp said: I must definitely be missing something here (and I'll happily confess to having zero pertinent legal knowledge in this matter). BUT, if this patent was filed on Sept 10, 2013 -- at least a year AFTER the XRPL was developed by David Schwartz et.al. doesn't that constitute a clear case of prior art? Good luck convincing a judge that Ripple Labs' use of the already-invented (not to mention open-source and in no way Ripple Labs-owned) XRPL constitutes infringement of something that was patented a year later... The application does have a priority date of September 10, 2012. Your argument might still hold water, though. Link to post Share on other sites
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