Chat: Discusion of media channels and personalities.

[DividendGamer]

Take most of the people on Twitter and YouTube with a huge grain of salt.

 

Most of them are just scamming for views , likes,  retweets , and clicks and followers.

 

I can't believe anyone with more than 10k followers did it organically, considering how easy it is to buy fake accounts and followers and bots to manipulate their content.

[dr_ed]

I don't think XRP will be classified as a security, but if it were then Susie might well have a point. I've argued with Susie about that. I disagree with her, but I don't consider that view "outlandish".

Nobody knows if XRP will be classified as a currency. I only know it should be...but getting XRP classified as a security might be a way for certain banking cartels to get in a shot against Ripple. I worry it could still happen, although I think it looks less likely now than when Susie made that video.

Susie also made the case for $334 XRP based on a 10% market penetration of SWIFT's market. Unproven, but she did give a decent rationale, and she knows about the way cross-border payments work better than most people. She worked in that business.

I'm not aware of other outlandish "calculations".....please do list them all. I ask her questions all the time and I find her opinion is always worth considering, myself. We argue.

To me, outlandish is people who believe in getting their XRP numbers from bears and riddles.....or maybe the tooth fairy.

If somebody can show their math, or make some reasonable case for their POV, that falls into the category of just trying to make sense of a new market that few if any people at all fully understand. 

[SquaryBone]

On 3/18/2019 at 11:45 AM, Benchmark said:

Susie has made many outlandish calculations and other ridiculous claims. Not reliable.

So did I, but I'm not a "social media influencer". 

Apart from the valuation she did bring some info.

[MADDOG28]

Hey guys, 

Was wondering if i can gain some help from the community. I just started writing articles and was wondering if the xrp community would help give it some traction. 

Thanks in advance, i hope its not too much trouble to ask if you can give it a read or a like... maybe even a comment. 

Cheers.

“Crypto is not a get rich quick scheme.” by Maddog28 https://link.medium.com/kPVFB8K8fW

[MrH]

On 3/16/2019 at 4:58 AM, Goliath said:

You are out of touch with the majority of the XRP army investors, you can benefit yourself by utilizing further research to gain a better understanding regarding others within this space. There is a reason a youtuber such as the Digital Asset Investor achieves an average of 20k views per video. I for one do not subscribe to any of these groups as matter of investing knowledge or nor accept their theories, although I am not oblivious to the players in the community and its participants, I'm an active equity and commodity trader with well over 25 years experience, I trade for a living. I have taken part in several market cycles, witnessed and participated in several booms/busts actively trading them from both long or short perspectives during the height of market speculations in various evolving markets and asset classes. Unlike those I described previously, I base my investments on proprietary institutional market research available to high net worth portfolios. The individuals whom I describe, much like yourself, sit on the retail side of trades, as with the groups you are subscribed to as well. What moves markets has been well explained in the previous thread by the OP. Just like the gold bugs, crypto communities are plagued with fanatics and novice investors who believe news or news media outlets move price action or influence volume, unfortunately these misconceptions are common place among those with little financial acumen which eventually lead to their demise often resulting with them being the last remaining bag holders. Understanding market sentiment is a vital key to being a successful trader, and understanding the players in a new space aids ones ability to guage further when sentiment begins to change. This bear market will remain a bear market for quite some time longer regardless of the advancements in this space, and only those who are well rooted in their knowledge of this space will be successful to overcome the hurdles over the next 9 to 12 months ahead.

I'm not out of touch with the 'majority' of the xrp community AT ALL, the 'xrp army' you think you are part of is the 'youtube shill show', who are HEAVILY out of touch with the reality and with the actual community. Heavily misinformed, you bring no weapons to the table during a discussion - all you can shout is nonsense about stuff that isnt going to happen to people who do know their ****. It looks like you have obviously spend days inside a ********** situation and think the community revolves around you or your 'group', or that you know everything.. but you dont - i'm not saying i know everything, to be fair i'd say the more i know the more i know howmuch i dont know - and i respect my own position in that, and i respect that.

At some moment in time you will get the feeling and the hang of things, you know up front what is more likely to be false than true. Maybe you will finally become more sceptical after you find out you have been getting non stop bs information and fake news, and start reading yourself. I'm blessed to work in the financial sector and i know some possibilities and some things that will never be possible.. im pretty sceptic by nature as my job experience taught me to act fast on idea's to deem them probable or improbable, and immediately take action to push the button or kill the idea, yet I still am a massive dreamer when it comes to XRP because there is so much more possible that we havent even figuredo ut yet.

and yet, I barely 'sell' my dreams to others, because I rather tell them how and why I got these dreams and what my core believes are instead, and explain to them how my core believes are as solid as a rock. When it comes to pursuading others in a discussion hoping they would get interested in XRP (i dont do this stuff, but 'if') its better to get 20 out of 100 that are aware or risks, know their ****, want to learn, want to educate themselves, try out how the ledger works and eventually write up blogs and have some interestng questions, then idiotic kids who just want to hear how high a price could be so they jump in. Even if these are 70 out of 100, you dont want them in your community as they have low stacks but LOUD mouths and they will non stop push hype as if its true, troll people that try to correct somethign they 'believe' in and they are a giant swarm of annoying bugs compared to the 20 people you will NOT get now as they dont believe in any of this nonsense. We are responsible for the quality of our own community, and it starts with waking the fk up and realizing this isnt a fairy tale world, this is a butchers house. You get slaughtered if you become sheep as you dont even know if the guy you are following is actually smart..

Youtubers.. obviously they dont have jobs, or had an impressive carreer, their whole income is based on clickbait, which means hype and pretending they 'know' information is just a business model. If you actually have a high amount of XRP invested, you wouldnt be watching clickbait, as they seriously have no value. You rather connect to serious people and those people exist in our community. Blogwriters, forensic experts, bankers, lawyers, economists, financial experts, stock brokers, forex experts, market experts - and even these people dont deserve a pedestral as everyone should be sceptic and be able to think of a couple of arguments against it, even if it is not your area of expertise yourself. Educate yourself, learn your own limits and know your strenght. Every time you get fooled should be a lesson that reveals your own weakness and you can protect yourself from that if you open up to believing in your own logical thoughts.

just my 2 cents