Chat: Discusion of media channels and personalities.

[MrH]

Just now, Goliath said:

Yes that's true, however you may not the vast majority of people in this space particularly in the XRP army get their information from youtube and social media chewed for them as you call it. The vast majority dont understand the technology, have little knowledge to no experience in the markets, cannot gauge market sentiment, cycles, or investing, they are investing based on what they heard and hoping to bet on the right horse. They observed BTC rise from hundreds to thousands with no partnerships and now are hoping to pick the next winner, one said XRP is akin to owning a winning lottery ticket in which you watch your winnings rise in slow motion. It is important to understand the community behind each asset class. 

nah, the groups im in barely watch any youtubers and can easiliy identify hype and fud from facts and know the news before these 'youtubers' talk about it pretending they are understanding it.. i think that the popularity you describe is a picture the youtubers love to spread about themselves, but all i see is fake news, hype, misunderstandings and for a true xrp investor its incredibly cringeworthy to watch. Be your own boss, read & learn, invest some time and efforts into your own brains so you can make up your opinions, they are easier to defend and you can change your vision easier as it becomes a true learning process instead of adapting other peoples opinions and trying to make them your own based on popularity instead of propability, facts and logics. You are way smarter than you think once you take away the limitations of being captured in another persons mindset

[Goliath]

2 hours ago, MrH said:

nah, the groups im in barely watch any youtubers and can easiliy identify hype and fud from facts and know the news before these 'youtubers' talk about it pretending they are understanding it.. i think that the popularity you describe is a picture the youtubers love to spread about themselves, but all i see is fake news, hype, misunderstandings and for a true xrp investor its incredibly cringeworthy to watch. 

You are out of touch with the majority of the XRP army investors, you can benefit yourself by utilizing further research to gain a better understanding regarding others within this space. There is a reason a youtuber such as the Digital Asset Investor achieves an average of 20k views per video. I for one do not subscribe to any of these groups as matter of investing knowledge or nor accept their theories, although I am not oblivious to the players in the community and its participants, I'm an active equity and commodity trader with well over 25 years experience, I trade for a living. I have taken part in several market cycles, witnessed and participated in several booms/busts actively trading them from both long or short perspectives during the height of market speculations in various evolving markets and asset classes. Unlike those I described previously, I base my investments on proprietary institutional market research available to high net worth portfolios. The individuals whom I describe, much like yourself, sit on the retail side of trades, as with the groups you are subscribed to as well. What moves markets has been well explained in the previous thread by the OP. Just like the gold bugs, crypto communities are plagued with fanatics and novice investors who believe news or news media outlets move price action or influence volume, unfortunately these misconceptions are common place among those with little financial acumen which eventually lead to their demise often resulting with them being the last remaining bag holders. Understanding market sentiment is a vital key to being a successful trader, and understanding the players in a new space aids ones ability to guage further when sentiment begins to change. This bear market will remain a bear market for quite some time longer regardless of the advancements in this space, and only those who are well rooted in their knowledge of this space will be successful to overcome the hurdles over the next 9 to 12 months ahead.

[carpetbelly]

7 hours ago, BobWay said:

I added a list at the top to gather suggested media friends.

Waiting to here the community response here.

She has an awful lot of senior banking expertise, and as others have said very pro xrp. And sadly been attacked a little, but i do like her insights myself.

[Gepster]

3 hours ago, Goliath said:

There is a reason a youtuber such as the Digital Asset Investor achieves an average of 20k views per video

You go on a massive rant, but the core problem @MrH is on about, is that these Youtubers (because they need to act fast) are often wrong in their assumptions, spreading misinformation, fake news and hype, only for the views.

They should be held accountable for this behaviour, because the type of audience they serve is easily mislead.

Sure, Alex Cobb has some entrepreneurial blood, which can be admired, but putting him on a pedestal hardly seems appropriate, when he gets it wrong more often than not.

[thonypert]

Just now, carpetbelly said:

She has an awful lot of senior banking expertise, and as others have said very pro xrp. And sadly been attacked a little, but i do like her insights myself.

can anyone here get in touch with her? It would be good if susie and @BobWay be able to exchange ideas. susie has a great deal of experience on the banking side. she has this one video discussing about the nostro vostro accounts and it was pretty eye opening imo.

Edited March 16, 2019 by thonypert

[Guest]

Great to see @BobWay supports @AlexCobb. He has had a few bullies try and knock him down and the guy just keeps rolling. 

[dr_ed]

16 hours ago, thonypert said:

How about susie from esoteric trading solutions? Have not heard from her for quite some time now.

Susie and her new teaching partner Liz have been very busy (in Amsterdam) working on their promised crypto education course that they successfully crowdfunded a few months ago. I am happy to say that it will be available in a few days, and that Susie can go back to just working 18 hour days...and no doubt making the occasional video again and busting FUD in her own inimitable fashion.

Edited March 16, 2019 by dr_ed

[dr_ed]

Susie is at least aware that Bob is on the scene. I do know that much. She's just been very, very busy the last few weeks.

[BobWay]

3 hours ago, dr_ed said:

Susie is at least aware that Bob is on the scene. I do know that much. She's just been very, very busy the last few weeks.

I'd love to meet her, and others in the space would are genuinely interested in rippling technologies.

Please make an introduction and she is free to ping me whenever she feel comfortable. (Time is on our side)

Edited March 16, 2019 by BobWay

[dr_ed]

I'll pass that on. I'm sure she'd love to meet you Bob. I sought out Susie as a mentor, but I have come to regard her as a true friend as well. She's a lovely person.

 

[Truckdriver]

On 3/16/2019 at 10:44 AM, scoobysi said:

just as feedback and just my opinion Digital asset investor is my favourite one to watch every day, short videos covering the latest news & although he is massively pro XRP not too hype. I did go off Alex's vids as he is a little ott on the hype front but I'm not going to heckle optimism too much as that is a quality I love, more the TA & long streams which just doesn't float my boat but each to their own. Crypto Eri is probably my second favourite for just presenting info/news & the Japanese side of it......

Agree with your post , but would  have CryptoEri then DAI for me and agree on your thoughts on Alex. But I get most of my info from silver and gold members on the forum, they have been around along time and smell bullsh*t very quickly.  There are a few other members I look out for, even though they don't post much , what they have to say is quality. Also the XRP Community Blog. 

[DividendGamer]

On 3/16/2019 at 3:55 AM, Gepster said:

You go on a massive rant, but the core problem @MrH is on about, is that these Youtubers (because they need to act fast) are often wrong in their assumptions, spreading misinformation, fake news and hype, only for the views.

They should be held accountable for this behaviour, because the type of audience they serve is easily mislead.

Sure, Alex Cobb has some entrepreneurial blood, which can be admired, but putting him on a pedestal hardly seems appropriate, when he gets it wrong more often than not.

Agreed, plus a lot of people on social media buy views, likes, retweets,follows to make themselves appear to be better than they are.

I don't trust anyone that has over 10k followers that gets under 1% participation from their followers.

 

It is too easy to pay for fake accounts.

[Dario_o]

On 3/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, BobWay said:

Waiting to here the community response here.

Personally, I stopped following Susie once she stated that XRP should be treated as a security and therefore buying XRP entitled to a stake in Ripple Labs.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2019 by Dario_o
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[Benchmark]

Susie has made many outlandish calculations and other ridiculous claims. Not reliable.

So did I, but I'm not a "social media influencer". 

[KaaKaRmA]

3 hours ago, Benchmark said:

Susie has made many outlandish calculations and other ridiculous claims. Not reliable.

So did I, but I'm not a "social media influencer". 

More people need to do their due diligence to vet these “social media influencers”. The term “influencer” is what gains them traction, as they’re largely posting content that their viewers want to hear and/or see. This cycle can be innocent at first, until they reach a certain level of influence, at which point their agenda shifts towards monetizing via merchandise, donations, selling courses, etc. Hype attracts views, as it stimulates the human brain towards what you want to happen.  Alex means we’ll, but he’s played the young age card for awhile now and also has been wrong more than right, even hyping a bear. Susie has garnered attention with an outrageous prediction and has proven to attack people in comments. Guys like CKJ have sold out to hype of a bear once their views died down. Guys like DAI focus a ton on building up hype.  The list goes on. My point is more people need to exercise caution on who them deem trustworthy and seek out what their alternative motives and hidden agendas are.  One could say that the only people making money in crypto at the moment are the influencers generating the hype to get people through a bear market.  Everyone needs to do their own research opposed to blindly following.