Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) I was expecting stuff like this. Big stage, big screen, amazing graphics, speakers walking on stage, plenty room, lasers even. FUTURE! Not NOSTALGIA, yikes. The audience of this conference are thousands of people viewing tweeted pics and sharing video's. They are all having a feeling when viewing them. Invest in that. And at least make sure people can SIT. But then again, this is Toronto, not Amsterdam, maybe this was the best that was available, and there was just no time for fancy stuff. In that case, hopefully better next year. Perhaps contact these people, they do an amazing job each year, and certainly know how to swell: from 300 attendees to 12,500 in ten years. Edited October 16, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, XdmXrp said: The picture of the venue is an absolute joke... seeing that alone has me worried about this event. Wow. honestly I dont understand everyone here, the idea of using a small venue and inviting specific people is a smart one, why? The majority of people will already be attending Sibos as it is a huge event, If ripple did try and compete on a size level it would be futile at this early stage, they just need to solidify the idea of a counter exhibition, especially in relation to the technological differences. Plant a small idea and watch it grow. they will inevitably increase in size every year, and as the technological difference and leverage becomes clear, in the subsequent years people will have to choose, and who would choose the slower older competitor. I saw the head of swift mocking ripple, no different from that Dimon idiot talking about bitcoin, they will inevitably shoot themselves in the foot with that mentality, its the blockbuster/netflix scenario. To go small is to make the competitor think he is superior and you are no threat. you guys should all read the art of war, while you prepare make your opponent comfortable, before you attack make him angry, and when you attack make sure you know you will win. Patience People Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangus Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I'm thinking a smaller venue might be best. It gives everyone a chance to interact and engage with the ripple team. I'm sure alot of thought went into this thing and it wasn't just thrown together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellefire Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, baderius said: honestly I dont understand everyone here, the idea of using a small venue and inviting specific people is a smart one, why? The majority of people will already be attending Sibos as it is a huge event, If ripple did try and compete on a size level it would be futile at this early stage, they just need to solidify the idea of a counter exhibition, especially in relation to the technological differences. Plant a small idea and watch it grow. they will inevitably increase in size every year, and as the technological difference and leverage becomes clear, in the subsequent years people will have to choose, and who would choose the slower older competitor. I saw the head of swift mocking ripple, no different from that Dimon idiot talking about bitcoin, they will inevitably shoot themselves in the foot with that mentality, its the blockbuster/netflix scenario. To go small is to make the competitor think he is superior and you are no threat. you guys should all read the art of war, while you prepare make your opponent comfortable, before you attack make him angry, and when you attack make sure you know you will win. Patience People Well said! Cryptoarob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryptoarob Posted October 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2017 I feel like a grumpy old man whenever I post something on this website but here it goes… Are you all out of your minds? Where do I begin?? Do you honestly think that attendees who are coming to this conference give a flying **** what the venue looks like? Isn’t this one of those trendy, restored / shabby chic kind of places anyway? Probably the same types of places that IB bros are throwing parties at in midtown, where hedge funds are buying property, or where tech companies are investing in new headquarters in NYC. In fact…wait…I just overheard a conversation now, this is how it went. Industry Insider #1: “Ben Bernanke has had a lot of good points during this discussion. What do you think, Industry Insider #2?” Industry Insider #2: “I’m not sure, Industry Insider #1. Although he’s had some strong comments, the locale of this venue is really a drag. I’d rather there be a bright stage with SWELL written in about 50 different languages and sitting a few hundred feet away from the stage.” Industry Insider #1: “You’re right, Industry Insider #2. I’m a big dummy. Forget the information and the discussion. Let’s go take our money elsewhere to an antiquated transaction infrastructure controlled by a minority cohort of financial institutions.” You guys may be on to something… Secondly, I wish I could share with you people the number of roadshows where private companies have shown up to discuss new rounds of financing, initial investments, etc….THAT WERE HELD IN CRAPPY HOTEL AIRPORTS. You think the first thing my boss told me before I went there was “Hey, no matter what happens, if the venue smells like a damp, 30-yr old conference room, ignore what they say and just get the hell out of there. There’s plenty of other places to put our money in.” The majority of these companies offer consistent 4-5x ROI (average). BUT WHAT DO I KNOW! I’ll just choose to put the money in the flashy new thing. Isn’t this the second gilded age after all? Thirdly, if this is what crypto investors really care about, man do we have a long way to go. Is this really what will make or break an investment? Are they really that fickle? Do they know something that I don’t? Or are they just uneducated? Countdown till someone replies to this and says something like “Blah blah, blah blah blah blah, this is crypto, its supposed to be different.” Sorry pal, it ain’t different. Investing, based on pure fundamentals and due diligence, will never change. It’s always about the message, the vision, and the product a company is trying to SELL. Not the glittery fringe on the outside. Not the lipstick on the pig. Lastly (maybe joking…maybe not) I would bet my life that the industry insiders that are attending this thing are spending about thousands of dollars a month on furniture and décor from Restoration Hardware which isn’t too much of a detour, trend wise, than the Airship37 venue. Capricorn6, Dejan, Chellefire and 12 others 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cryptoarob said: Industry Insider #1: “Ben Bernanke has had a lot of good points during this discussion. What do you think, Industry Insider #2?” Industry Insider #2: “I’m not sure, Industry Insider #1. Although he’s had some strong comments, the locale of this venue is really a drag. I’d rather there be a bright stage with SWELL written in about 50 different languages and sitting a few hundred feet away from the stage.” Industry Insider #1: “You’re right, Industry Insider #2. I’m a big dummy. Forget the information and the discussion. Let’s go take our money elsewhere to an antiquated transaction infrastructure controlled by a minority cohort of financial institutions.” Excellent point! You're right. But I think you can have your cake and eat it too. Satisfy the industry insider with information (but make sure he can SIT DOWN, and feels PART of the event), while also satisfying your million times bigger audience that is not there. The ones that support your enterprise by buying your coins. I do think however, that most information we absorb, is visual. Even the industry insider that does not care about visuals. Edited October 16, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLP18PharmD Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 28 minutes ago, lucky said: I was expecting stuff like this. Big stage, big screen, amazing graphics, speakers walking on stage, plenty room, lasers even. FUTURE! Not NOSTALGIA, yikes. The audience of this conference are thousands of people viewing tweeted pics and sharing video's. They are all having a feeling when viewing them. Invest in that. And at least make sure people can SIT. But then again, this is Toronto, not Amsterdam, maybe this was the best that was available, and there was just no time for fancy stuff. In that case, hopefully better next year. Perhaps contact these people, they do an amazing job each year, and certainly know how to swell: from 300 attendees to 12,500 in ten years. Well, I would expect Ripple to get to this point in the future. It's silly and naive to think or expect that they were going to compete with SIBOS at this stage of the game. At-any-rate, I ditto @baderius khomsky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn6 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cryptoarob said: I feel like a grumpy old man whenever I post something on this website but here it goes… Are you all out of your minds? Where do I begin?? Do you honestly think that attendees who are coming to this conference give a flying **** what the venue looks like? Isn’t this one of those trendy, restored / shabby chic kind of places anyway? Probably the same types of places that IB bros are throwing parties at in midtown, where hedge funds are buying property, or where tech companies are investing in new headquarters in NYC. In fact…wait…I just overheard a conversation now, this is how it went. Industry Insider #1: “Ben Bernanke has had a lot of good points during this discussion. What do you think, Industry Insider #2?” Industry Insider #2: “I’m not sure, Industry Insider #1. Although he’s had some strong comments, the locale of this venue is really a drag. I’d rather there be a bright stage with SWELL written in about 50 different languages and sitting a few hundred feet away from the stage.” Industry Insider #1: “You’re right, Industry Insider #2. I’m a big dummy. Forget the information and the discussion. Let’s go take our money elsewhere to an antiquated transaction infrastructure controlled by a minority cohort of financial institutions.” You guys may be on to something… Secondly, I wish I could share with you people the number of roadshows where private companies have shown up to discuss new rounds of financing, initial investments, etc….THAT WERE HELD IN CRAPPY HOTEL AIRPORTS. You think the first thing my boss told me before I went there was “Hey, no matter what happens, if the venue smells like a damp, 30-yr old conference room, ignore what they say and just get the hell out of there. There’s plenty of other places to put our money in.” The majority of these companies offer consistent 4-5x ROI (average). BUT WHAT DO I KNOW! I’ll just choose to put the money in the flashy new thing. Isn’t this the second gilded age after all? Thirdly, if this is what crypto investors really care about, man do we have a long way to go. Is this really what will make or break an investment? Are they really that fickle? Do they know something that I don’t? Or are they just uneducated? Countdown till someone replies to this and says something like “Blah blah, blah blah blah blah, this is crypto, its supposed to be different.” Sorry pal, it ain’t different. Investing, based on pure fundamentals and due diligence, will never change. It’s always about the message, the vision, and the product a company is trying to SELL. Not the glittery fringe on the outside. Not the lipstick on the pig. Lastly (maybe joking…maybe not) I would bet my life that the industry insiders that are attending this thing are spending about thousands of dollars a month on furniture and décor from Restoration Hardware which isn’t too much of a detour, trend wise, than the Airship37 venue. I absolutely agree. I'm pretty sure Ripple put a few minutes of thought into every detail of this monumental company event. Their focus is, and always has been, their product. This venue speaks to that. Edited October 16, 2017 by Capricorn6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, Cryptoarob said: Countdown till someone replies to this and says something like “Blah blah, blah blah blah blah, this is crypto, its supposed to be different.” Sorry pal, it ain’t different. Investing, based on pure fundamentals and due diligence, will never change. It’s always about the message, the vision, and the product a company is trying to SELL. Not the glittery fringe on the outside. Not the lipstick on the pig. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, RLP18PharmD said: It's silly and naive to think or expect that they were going to compete with SIBOS at this stage of the game This is exactly what I was expecting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn6 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, lucky said: I do think however, that most information we absorb, is visual. Even the industry insider that does not care about visuals. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipDip Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 @Cryptoarob Mic Drop. Capricorn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhalendlrband Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I don't know what people are complaining about this is exactly as I pictured it would look like. Not much different than Consenus 2017 really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripple-Stiltskin Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) To be honest: this is absolutely not what I expected. Why not, I ask myself... First: the Swell logo and layout, the welcome banner at the entrance and all other PR materials are not consistent with the interior. They give me a feeling of greatness, maybe even “luxury” , “ must see, modern times are here”. The “look and feel” of these PR materials are not in line with folding chairs and standing tables in what looks like my classroom at highschool. Second: I attended many, many conferences in bankersworld and knowing a lot of young and old bankers , I can say that they are both sensitive to the looks of an event and the “ show” surrounding it. They resemble a lot like **** sapiens, we all are consciously or at least unconsiously sensitive to appearance. Don’t forget: we are living in the age of internet with YouTube, Linked In, Snapchat etc. Content is less important, visibility is everything. ( which sometimes drives me crazy in my own current job) So yes; bankers care about “ the show” . And at the same time wanting to hear some breaking news and new insights. At the end we can only speculate at this moment how the invites are judging Swell. I hope they are enthousiastic , both by the intimate, informal atmosphere as by the ground breaking content. Edited October 16, 2017 by Ripple-Stiltskin Lol: got censored for *o*o Sapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jag216 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I do feel like there is a millennial appeal to the SWELL venue that carries an irony lost on older industry players who actually lived during the nostalgic periods that 30-somethings are trying to reclaim as rethinking of modern classics. That being said, having been to these sort of things, the venue doesn't matter as long as the food is good, there are enough seats to meet and greet and reclaimed shabbiness is cosmetic and not poorly done. No one wants to have a crappy well drink under an old barn door with real termites eating smokies from Costco. Sharkey and Ripple-Stiltskin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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